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Sydney-Whiting WH

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Passage

Pg #

Comment/Question

  • “..by instinct, his reserve springs from an aversion to showy displays of feeling..”

11

  • (Q) What has Heathcliff experienced in the past that led him to this? Was he always like this?

  • “He evidently wished no repetition of my intrusion.”

14

  • (CL/Q) Is it possible that Heathcliff experienced some sort of heartbreak or betrayal when he was young? This would make sense as to why isn’t too sociable.

  • “..won’t let him sit with us, nor eat with us anymore…”

27

  • (C) I’m getting Cinderella from this. Like jealous, evil siblings, except without the evil parent. I wonder how extreme this gets throughout the book. And the consequences too. I'm also getting Flowers in the Attic from Catherine and Heathcliff.

  • “Hindley descended more leisurely, sobered and abashed..sobbed of his terror directly.”

77

  • (C) I don’t really know that this is a focal point of the book, but I know it caused an emotional response for me. Hindley using disgusting tactics to mask deeper personal issues, and then, as if a switch were flipped, feeling intense regret is very much a real-life thing. Especially when it’s triggered by death.

  • “Edgar Linton has asked me to marry him.”

79

  • (E/C) Looking at this situation as blandly as possible, I’m sad that she didn’t chose Heathcliff. However, looking deeper, I definitely think there are some bigger issues. To me this particular event strikes as a version of the cliché story where the girl gives up her true love for a life of riches and higher social class.

  • “..he’s more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same..”

82

  • (E) She’s made it clear she sees Heathcliff as her soulmate, but is it possible to have more than one? I think this shows that she truly does love Heathcliff, but her inability to comprehend it is evidence of her age, her experience, and materialism.

  • “..if Heathcliff and I married, we should be beggars..if I marry Linton, I can aid Heathcliff to rise, and place him out of my brother’s power.”

83

  • (C) I think this is also representative of “young love”. This demonstrates how easily manipulated young minds are, and how selfish one can be. When you’re young it’s fairly common to not truly consider the consequences of your actions, especially romantically. She is unable to acknowledge her basic thinking and see what she’s doing for what it actually is.

  • “..they may bury me twelve feet deep, and throw the church down over me, but I won’t rest till you are with me. I never will!”

125

  • (C) This very much reminds me of Romeo and Juliet in the basic fact that Heathcliff and Catherine cannot be together, but long for each other. This quote is so reckless and intense, and Catherine is willing to loose it all for true love.

  • “Her husband lies in the same spot now; and they have each a simple headstone above..”

165

  • (E/Q) This quote made me stop and reflect on the Catherine’s love triangle. It was desperate, tragic, and helpless.  I can’t quite understand how Edgar could remain so in love with a devoted to Catherine. Heathcliff was devastated by Catherine’s choices, yet he was still in love with her. I feel like there’s so much more to this and I can’t wrap my head around it.

  • “They’s Heathcliff, and a woman, yonder...I saw nothing..”

319

  • (Q) How can the best thing for us, also be the worst? How did Heathcliff become so evil? When you invest your being, and your happiness into one individual, how do you cope once you loose them? How/why was he so overcome with hate and spite it consumed him entirely?

 

 

Comments (4)

Sharon Murchie said

at 9:17 am on Aug 1, 2018

I found this article yesterday. http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20180725-heathcliff-and-literatures-greatest-love-story-are-toxic

It also discusses much of what you discuss: the immaturity of their relationship, the recklessness, the tragedy, and also the hatred and revenge.

Personally, I'm not sure who annoys me more: Heathcliff or Catherine. They are both terrible people, I think. And yet, this book is seen as a great love story, very much like (you mention) R&J.

Why is our culture so obsessed with these tragic love stories?

19swhiti@... said

at 10:25 pm on Aug 15, 2018

I commented on another students' post about how I felt that I had "blinders" on going into this. I think I went into this solely looking for the romance. I completely agree that they were both horrible people, and I was able to recognize it, but I was also able to completely disregard it. I think that we approach a lot of things in life this way. We go in fixated on one thing without fully taking in everything else around it. I think our culture is obsessed with tragic love stories because they are tragic. There is beauty in tragedy, and I think we cling to that, wanting more. As selfish and confusing as it may be, I feel like so many people seek out conflict and complication, hoping that they find someone who is willing to persevere for them because that's supposed to be true love, right?

19akyes@... said

at 1:08 pm on Aug 15, 2018

I love this story for the same reason I love Romeo and Juliet. People will spend all day criticizing Kathrine’s naturally cruel nature and Heathcliff’s downfall into this evil hermit guy but this story is about love and because of that I am interested. Sure the Pride and the Prejudice is a great love story but the ending is far too happy to be relatable. Elizabeth marries the rich and handsome and. Darcy and they have a wonderful love filled marriage. But imagine how popular R+J would be if they just got married and united the two families? The evil and cruel and doomed and the other f**ked up people of the world fall in love too. They’re love just usually ends in tragedy, but it doesn’t mean it’s not real love. Heathcliff and Kathrine were not people who were made for true love, they were made for pain; receiving it and inflicting it. It’s sad but it’s real.

19swhiti@... said

at 10:32 pm on Aug 15, 2018

Yes, I feel like the book was that much more intriguing because of the tragedy. The characters resembled realistic character traits that could be applied to our own lives, and I think that's why it's seen as a great love story. Who wants to put down a book about themselves? Although we aren't the characters exactly, none of us are perfect and that's how we're able to see ourselves within the text. We can individually relate to the story however we need to because there is love and there is evil and there is tragedy, and we can't help but feel empathy, much like how we can't help but feel sorry for ourselves sometimes.

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